CNLP 476 | Clay Scroggins on Leaving Full-Time Ministry, How to Tackle the Rapid Changes Facing Leaders, and How Vulnerability is Critical to Great Leadership
The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast
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How Are You Fighting That Battle Internally, Clay?
Clay: There's a hierarchy of fear as well. The very basic level, you've got death. And then at the very top is speaking in public. clay: I would rather die than go through that again or stand in front of these people and do whatever.
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