Debates Aren't the Place to End an Issue

I like debates because they can get someone excited to think about the issue and think, Oh, wow, that other side made a really good point. I did offer some infallible rules of faith, but they weren't my major case. But I was surprised he just had very, a few references from Augustine and that was it. And so I think like there are things that we can really press Gavin on, such as like development, even in the Old Testament and morality throughout the Bible to some extent.