The Best We Can Hope For

In this episode, Anthony talks with award-winning journalist, Chris Cuomo. Chris talks about his own public firing, detailing the mental health struggles he faced, working through therapy, and how he learnt to accept what had happened as he was going to “kill everybody,” including himself. He discusses the move from being number one at CNN, to keeping perspective with his much smaller, “kind of embarrassing” NewsNation audience.

Together, they get personal on family. Chris explains that his brother, Governor Andrew Cuomo, went down for “a lot of reasons,” and stresses that despite the repercussions, he will never regret helping his family. Anthony shares how Chris helped him with his own marital issues, and the pair compare notes on their Italian upbringings and frequently being mistaken for members of the Mob.

Finally, Anthony asks Chris about his much-anticipated book “Deep Denial,” which was dropped by publishers following his firing, and what he hopes the Cuomo family legacy will look like, from Mario and Matilda to Andrew and his children. 

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