Intro

Today on the show, Fareed is joined by outgoing US National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan for an exclusive interview. They discuss the Biden administration’s foreign policy legacy, and the unique opportunity that the Trump administration has to continue pushing for a ceasefire in Ukraine and pursuing effective diplomatic relations with Iran and China. 

Then, David Brooks, opinion columnist at the New York Times, speaks with Fareed about the stark divide in how Americans view Donald Trump and what this tells us about the state of US politics more broadly. They also discuss Brooks’ recent Atlantic cover story in which he argues that the elite college admissions process has inadvertently hurt American society – and lays out some opportunities for reform. 

GUESTS: Jake Sullivan (@JakeSullivan46), David Brooks (@nytdavidbrooks) 

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