Introduction

Jeffrey Church: I'm talking to Joshua Cherntes, associate professor of political science at Georgetown University. We're discussing his 2021 book, Liberalism in Dark Times, the Liberal Ethos in the 20th Century. He has published extensively on these topics and we'll get into a number of them in our conversation. Jeff: It is a really helpful and illuminating survey of a number of liberal thinkers in the20th Century. And they're a defense of what you call tempered liberalism,. But congratulations on the book.