Use Based Pricing in a Down Market?

Jamel: I'm curious to hear what jamming thinks about this, but I've seen a lot of cool aid around usage based pricing and what it means in my opinion. This is the first downturn we're actually ever seeing usage based cloud model at across worlds really. And so I'm very curious about how these exponential workloads, like the N squared, you put in more volume, it goes up exponentially. How that all works. Jaman: Is SaaS basically killed desktop or software, or is that just another flavor of doing business?