i think we're ju nn our wheels here. I think we should focus on the case of the drunk driving case, which is very useful and brings out virtually every element here that's worth talking about. And i just, i would want to hear tamler, for instance. Here's a question for you. If it was just true to say, and this is now pushing on your claim that you're not a consequentialist, what if it's just a fact that you would be better off? Why do you still deserve that beat down? Ye? We aways.

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