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How many cops is enough?

Time To Say Goodbye

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Is There Something Like Qualitatively Different About Being a Public Defender?

Ellis: I don't think they actually even have a choice about it because if it is true or they believe it to be true, right? And that you are supposed to as your job rooted out in all, in all places. But when the client is in fact the state, like I just think this stuff gets really muddy and I don't know.

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