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The Role of Discipline in Shepherding
So many of the paths just lead to confrontation and intense arguments which obviously does nothing but galvanize the other person and yourself rather than anything fruitful. So I'm so interested in this conversation from a shepherding point of view that's why I asked you guys that you guys are both in different positions of shepherding that I think are really interesting. How do you help people to cultivate discernment? Maybe it's just something that's simple and dumb is discernment but like being able to so in therapy same thing like if my wife is going through something that I can't fix they have to support their agency even if it's their body just doing what it's supposed to be yeah.