When you become a CMO, does someone hand you that line to say because everyone, it's like all of you? It depends on what the concern is. And again, you can't just force the message on people. So I think content is advertising. Do you think of it that way? Some things are ads and some things are content or is it all advertising? Even if it's just like of something on our Instagram or on our own YouTube, like our own YouTube channel, do I think that's advertising?

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