How to Master the Eight Worldly Wins

We would meet with him once a month online or over the phone, actually, and discuss what our experience was. And he would obviously ask questions that helped him determine how we were doing allowed him to kind of make assessments as it were. But nobody's going to say, Oh, yes, you've got it. You're enlightened. Right. Or treat kind of plan like a over a period of just like a couple of years.