i started using him at 20, 18 m i mean, it was kind of, i feel lik it was a market thing. Well, i feel a littl better if it's only 20 18 that they firt start coming around. I wonder for tip the east coast. But like mike says, it's probably not in the high desert tit sounds more like a west coast ting. And look, just like dead heads, we are everywhere.

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