Danielle: You have innate personality attributes that make you a natural at being contrarian whereas for me is like I'm sweating bricks when I make probably the kinds of moves that you would make naturally. If you're an investor starting off so we talked about boring with bumpers go and find some experts be careful don't let somebody tell you who the experts are, she says. Danielle: Charlie Munger's Daily Journal Corporation really worth looking at two companies because of the people running them.