Reuben: The easiest thing when you start off is to do hourly rits, right? When i do project work, i still do largely hourly rates. It's not the path of greatest income. And it leads to all sorts of soof friction, because no matter what you do, the clients going to assume that you're patting it. So one of the nice things about me doing training now is indeed, and ther diferent ways to charge for training also. But i discharge, as you said, like a daily rate for up to x people,. Where x, by the way, differs per country because they ask different numbers of questions or diferent aggressive and then