Speaker 2
But perceptions, interesting,
Speaker 3
we agree, Lish as well, especially during his first season. Yeah, people
Speaker 2
are hounded in like, but it's because it was 100 million. And you mentioned 70 before, I think even at 70 is getting pressed. Yeah, but I think 100 million is like, was it record at the time? Yeah, most expensive British player
Speaker 1
and it's primarily transfer. And it's villa are a small
Speaker 2
football club, but people prefer it when stars are playing for teams that are the more obvious ones. Also, you talked about that scrutiny and being celebrated within a city if things are going
Speaker 1
well, but also like, you say, villa win five games in a row, but like if villa lose at a weekend, it's like, unless it's like a massive game. Yeah, but then nationally, like, that day, it's not like a big thing on that today. People aren't saying what's going on with greediness is performance, but as soon as you don't live up to expectations at city. Yeah, but like, it's not just that, you know, Sancho going to Man United or whatever. If you're a club like villa or Dortmund or wherever, you can have your highlights seen on Twitter and this guy's great, but there's not the same scrutiny. As soon as you go to a bigger club, you've got that scrutiny also like, really sad, not just that, but like booing straight away. And it was like, what's this? Because he signed the summer when England were in the euros and everyone was like, Oh, greediness needs to come on greediness needs to come on. Like, this is the guy Southgate needs to pick. We love ghoulish. We want to see him play and then he goes to city and then he's getting booed everywhere. And it's like that must have been like a big adaptation, a big like.
Speaker 2
Yeah, he has a style of play, which if you don't like him or his team is very boo boo boo. He doesn't have that style of play because, you know, he will take time with the ball. He will win three kicks and they are three kicks. But yeah, it's the way football was his self-hick. It was the same guy has now traveled, what is it 110 miles up the M6 and all of a sudden now he's the biggest nemesis to like English football. It doesn't add up. And something we said on previous podcast, the club accept the bid and let someone go. It's not the player. If the player is on a free transfer, fair enough. But when clubs are accepting bids for players, why is it the player that's the villain when they're the one that's just been sold? Like you're not transferring yourself. You're being sold by a football club. I feel like it's just said, no, we're keeping him. And then what changes?
Speaker 1
They could have, but also like a player could say like in maybe
Speaker 2
it's different because I could say no. A player like Grady could say, I don't want to go some stay in here. Yeah, but what's again, what's the overall value for that in their career? Because when again, we mentioned there's a feeling of people who watch football and if people people who watch football with the emotion attached to the club that they're affiliated with. And from a if you just watch football from an external standpoint, would you want to go from a team that's in mid table to a team that's top of the league to earn more money to be in the chance to win more trophies and to be surrounded by better players? Yeah,
Speaker 1
you were saying is like the players got no saying at the club selling them, but obviously he wanted to go as well. And for the first part of it, the club accepts in a bit because it's a bit of a bad set
Speaker 2
of the best. You think the way around? You think so? One more way? It's
Speaker 1
like a player on eight. Oh, fuck, I'm telling a player on eight because look, you know, this is, you know, we're getting interest from this club. We want to entertain it. Also, there was this whole thing with like, they put in a release clause after he didn't go to United the year before. Yeah. Yeah. And it's like, well, that was a very complicated one because like nobody was supposed to know about the release clause, but like, obviously did. But in every like communication with Villa, they had to be like, oh, how much would you want for this guy, by the way? And Villa will all these guys don't know. And then I'm like, right, 100 million. They were like, you fuckers. But like surely like, it definitely works as well. We've
Speaker 2
got interest from this club. We want to like, we want you to entertain it. What we'll do, what we'll do, we'll spend us a little bit because Grish is an interesting situation because he's like an Englishman with a bio clause in the apprenticeship. And I don't know. That's very rare. That's what I mean. But in general terms, as a player, you can say it is interest from this on the club. But what difference does it make if the club decide not to accept the bid? Yeah, the club can be difficult. Well, the club have the final say, not the player to get the ball rolling. They do have the final say, but then there's also steps then the players take. Yeah. Listen, a player could have a contract lined up to go to a club for a billion pounds a second. Yeah. Yeah. A billion pounds a second.