"I don't know how this changes without some type of truly wild thing," he says. "When you get one agent from a rock-a-door, you're throwing a fucking... You know, with pipe bombs." The next 50 years will see charlatans and hucksters rise to positions of power in the U.S., but those are always the people who come in at the end and they'll fight over the scraps,. I think what's far more likely... It's just a slow unwinding..."

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