*This episode contains content that may be triggering for some listeners.*

From the whirlwind of a rock and roll upbringing to the heights of pop stardom, Chynna Phillips’ life has been anything but ordinary. The daughter of music legends, Chynna navigated the complexities of a turbulent childhood while in the glare of public attention, which left her searching for her own identity. Yet, even in the midst of the spotlight and the challenges, a profound spiritual awakening offered her a path to healing and self-discovery.

Later in the episode, we’ll hear from Tiffany Espensen, an actress, content creator, wife, and mom. Tiffany’s journey began with her adoption from China and her upbringing in California, where her passion for performing blossomed, leading to roles with Disney, Nickelodeon, and Marvel. Tiffany shares her thoughts on the significance of adoption in her life and how she’s discovered meaning and identity in both her on-screen roles and her life at home.

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Interview Quotes:

“At the core and at the center of my being, I knew I was a creative, kind, loving human being, but it was just so tainted by my environment that I felt lost.” - Chynna Phillips

“The song [“Hold On”] was written mostly to inspire myself, and little did I know that it would end up inspiring and being an anthem to so many people around the world. It is a very universal lyric, and everyone can sort of identify with just holding on for one more day.” - Chynna Phillips

“Once I started to pray and I started seeing all of this abundance of answered prayer pouring out onto my life, that validated for me that I am loved by God because He’s listening to me.” - Chynna Phillips

“There’s something about girl power and being around your Christian friends and they pray for you and you confess to one another—and it’s just a beautiful thing.” - Chynna Phillips

“When people have the courage to be transparent with me and talk to me about what’s really going on in their lives, not only does it bless them because they get to confess with somebody and talk with somebody, but it blesses me because I know they trust me and I know that they are opening up to me and being vulnerable with me.” - Chynna Phillips

“When I started playing different characters, it made me talk to more people and be open to hearing their stories and asking their thoughts. It really made me think about different personalities of people and their different quirks and their behavior. So it really makes you empathetic.” - Tiffany Espensen

“We all have different roles in life and we’re all a different role to someone else. We’re a daughter, a son, a sister, a nephew, an employee, a boss, a co-worker. Everything comes and goes in your life—people, jobs, opportunities—but Jesus is the one thing that will remain constant. He’s with you through it all.” - Tiffany Espensen

“I feel like God puts people in your life that you need, and I feel like once I kind of talk it out with people outside of my own head—people that I trust and good people of faith as well—it definitely balances my brain out.” - Tiffany Espensen