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Episode 4 - Tucker Max and Joe Norman

Doomer Optimism

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Psychodelics, I'm a Part of That Energetic System

"It took psychodelics to get through all my trama and my ego, to kind of break that open and help me feel. Now, i really just, it's funly, the the deeper i've got and the more work i've done, the less i need the medicine," he says. "I could not have made this transition, or seen this stuff, or approached it this way without having done that workad."

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