The Second Way to Scroll on Vision Pro

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John Defterios: The era of doom scrolling forever on our phones has overall not been positive for society I don't think. But it's something interesting that we're having this major platform come out where one of the most common interaction patterns may not be comfortable or practical or nice to do a large amount of. Can you describe the two mechanisms? He says pinching and swiping both work by looking at your hands, which is a harder problem than knowing when you've spun a wheel or knew how many spins as you want with a trackpad.

Pre-show:
- How did we celebrate the Fourth of July?
- Member Episodes Survey
Follow-up:
- As per anonymous, Ternus received our Mac Pro shirt. 🫣
- Adam Eccles expands the ATP Listener Universe™
- Yes, Full Photos Access gives apps carte blanche (via Peter Gertsen-Schibbye)
  - Frameo
  - EXIF data
- Desktop widget chaos whimsy (via Danny Lin)
- A contradictory perspective on the Reddit protests (via Lee Abraham)
Who is the Mac Pro for, anyway?
Top Four Vision Pro challenges
- Steve Troughton-Smith discovers a cursor 1 & 2
Post-show: Threads
- Initial response