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I just don't see how they foster that kind of environment, because everything is a list. Like the inner face doesn't give you an opportunity to understand people. You have to go out your way to sweter, slack discord to do a video call, which is not that grade either. And if what people really want is that meaning full, embodied connection to a project, in what other ways could there be affordances on these platforms that like make that happen? How would you do it? Encouraging something like video calls between people who are members of the community or want to be member of the community, in a very frictionless way.