Gillian Hadfield is Director of the Schwartz Reisman Institute for Technology and Society. She is a Professor of Law and Professor of Strategic Management at the University of Toronto.

In our interview, we discuss:

• Why humans invented law, and what Gillian describes as "the demand side" for legal infrastructure;
• Why social norms continue to be important today and how Ancient Athens managed to use a decentralised system of collective punishment;
• The case for "regulatory markets" in governing artificial intelligence, and how governments in the 21st Century need to keep up with rapid advances in technology
• "Silly rules" and why seemingly arbitrary norms are actually really important in creating society's normative infrastructures

You can read more about the topics we cover in this episode's write-up: hearthisidea.com/episodes/gillian.

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