The VA chief of medicine at the VA called me into his office to say, Terry, I'm pulling you out of primary care. And then next to that, I said, because I want you to start your own clinic. What you're doing is remarkable, and we need to have you seeing patients so you can treat them the way you want to be treated they. It's amazing to push back that you would get when recommending something as safe and innocuous as just eat healthier.

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