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E15: Richard Hanania on Vivek Ramaswamy, Affirmative Action, and the Winning Agenda for 2024

"Upstream" with Erik Torenberg

CHAPTER

The Cost of Freedom

I doubt it would save lives. I don't want the society that's going to maximize life saved. That's a dystopia, like trying to save as many lives as possible. And so yeah, clearly, but, you know what, that's,. that's the, that's the cost of freedom.

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