Mina replaces the traditional block chain with the zero knowledge proof, which insures a super light chain that stays round 22 kilobites and allows every participant to act as a full note. With this episode, i'm curious to hear a little bit more about privacy, actually have that conversation about where your thinking sort of comes from. And i definitely want to revisit nim, hear what's happened since i had you guids on last and yet find out how maybe nim is solving some of these concerns or issues that we explore.

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