"They're hiring you to be confident. And then they put you in the least confident situation," he says. "I was always, I mean, sometimes that would flip." A callback is the same for him: It's not just a go,. So for this one, I didn't suck, and I did a good job, and they were lovely... But it was a good experience, but the audition, I was like, fuck this, it's stupid".

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