Navigating the Depths of Grief and Silence

With Pope Francis' funeral just hours away, the Vatican says about 250,000 paid their respects to the pontiff in St. Peter’s Basilica. Francis was known for his love of those on the margins - immigrants, the poor, those too often shunted aside. CNN’s Clarissa Ward talks with a female inmate who met the pope last year, when he came to her prison. She remembers him as a “Pope of the people.” And perspective on this moment from Andrew Sullivan, who has written often, and eloquently about the pontiff, the church, and his own Catholic faith.

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