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#55 Why Isn’t Tisha B’Av Working?

For Heaven's Sake

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The Day of Tishabaav, Is It a Shattering of Certainties?

Tishabaav is a day on which we have to start modelling a different type of ideological discourse. It's about having conversation about existentially significant issues without claiming certainty. We're going to take a few weeks break in this disraeli european month of august, and we will come back to be with you in a number of weeks towards the endo.

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Maybe now we need to just take a deep breath and say, ok, in some ways we're a shattered, o broken people. In other ways, we're victorious people. And really, we're itsoprenic. We're torn between those two experiences. Maybe then tishabaav, to bring this all to a close. Instead
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of talking about senseless hatred and having all these panels and these conversations about hatred, maybe this is a day on which we have to start modelling a different type of ideological discourse. Le's, let's actually don't talk abouti lets talk about your truths. Let's and this is the day in which we give birth to a different culture of conversation started on tish above, started the three weeks beforehand, lead it up into yum kipper. And then maybe the culmination is robin's death, whichis a few weeks after, right after the holiday season. That there is almost a period in which we live the israel and the culture that we want to have. And then maybe that will start. That's also the schools. They don't know what to do. They don't tish above, they're not there. And then robin's death, they don't know what to do with lik. Idon't want to commemorate the killing. It's not about that. It's about having conversation about existentially significant issues without claiming certainty. Imagine public
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conversations around the country where politicians and journalists, or or ama, ordinary people speak about this is where i was wrong. I really believed this, but i believed it inola. See here. Once we start that, and and so tishabaa then becomes an expression of a shattering, which is what the day is supposed to be. But it's a shattering of certainties that i held. And it's an opening then for a kind of softness. Then it becomes a real day. And then ican hear you thenthen it becomes a real day. And it's a real day. Yo,
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we got somewhere. Ye, thank you very much. Yesi blogterful, wonderful ige with you. Sa, for heaven's sake, is the product of the shelem harvin institute. Was produced by dovid pkeman and edited by m lewis gordon. Transcripts of our show are now available on our webside, typically a week after an episode airs. To find them and to learn more about the shalm hartenis whod, visit us on line at shalemharmen dot org. We ant to know what you think about the show. You can raid and review us on itunes. Tell more people discover the show. You can also write to us. It for heavens at shelamarvan dot org. Subscribe to our show in the apple podcast ap, potifi, sound cloud, audible and everywhere else podcasts are available. We're going to take a few weeks break in this disraeli european month of august, and we will will come back to be with you in a number of weeks, towards the endo. Thank you. You'll see and tallernet listeners, thank you so much for listening. T lesk, you

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