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The first question we like to ask is sort of how effed are we? So on a scale of one to 10, and this is a model that Mark and I have used for many years. We found out that the activist John Jordan also uses it. And therefore, it does feel as though we're in the worst dystopian horror. But there is all that science that tells us there is still time to take action. That is the really important thing to hang on to, I think.

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