Manderin: I think actually the fact that there's thi financialization of what we're doing actually makes us extremely off putting to the traditional art market. People like, really hate me. That's something i've learned to accept over the years. Because you're quanting, you're quatifying something that purists would say can't be qualified. This guy asked for the meeting. Just yell, yell, yelled at my cn, my brother and i, youknow, he's drinking a cup of hot water, its a whole time. And michael and i are just like, is the translator even sali? We know he speaks english, but is he

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