The Quan and the Falsity of Traditional Theism

Everything that. begins to exist has a material cause and we could say material cause in a sense so you're starting this argument with everything that begins to exist had a material cause because of the fact that if we look at our empirical evaluation of the world that that seems to be the case when things begin to exist they have some pre-existing material things are stuff. So i don't even like to get bogged down in stuff about material because there is lots of stuff going on in our brain firstly but um yeah anyway i just want to i want to divorce the argument from material specifically and just talk about pre-existing things or stuff pre-existing stuffYeah, it's not as though