The Importance of Having a Counter Example

I think if you just get people to care enough about figuring out how things actually are and making sure that their map is as close to reality as they can get it then the rest will shake out naturally. There's a good counter example but I wanted to raise one thing first is that a lot of people just don't really care, he says. The difference between people like that is that simple to him as a compliment and to others it's not "Should we try to raise the sanity water line"? He asks.