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With podcast, its not as intense in that sense. Some things do get traction, and you just notice it based on the response that you get. My red hot takes tend to do pretty well because they're hyper topical and there's a lot of emotion behind it. I don't want to start chasing numbers and chasing stats and only doing stuff because i feel like it'll get them most. That's more, probably a personality thing more than anything else. Just trying to be as authentic and and follow my heart and have episodes that i'm genuinely interested in.