Shiv's Advice to Matt

I think we've gone back and forth with who is most like Logan, who is most becoming their father. And in this episode, listening to, I think it was Carl's advice. Now he's often, he would just start with a joke. Kendall and Roman completely shut him down. They don't listen to him for one second. Shiv goes in sort of like that. The last thing Lucas says to Shiv is, you remind me of Logan. You're a, you're a lot like Logan in a good way. Yeah.