Discussion of a Football Game, Stadium, and Alumni

The speakers discuss a recent football game where one team loses and the disastrous state of the stadium. They also explore the football culture and mention notable alumni from certain schools.

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Marty sits down with Will Cole to discuss his new writing on the five invariant elements of product management and how to build an effective strategy for your company.

Will on Twitter: https://twitter.com/willcole

0:00 - Intro

6:17 - Marty is sleepy

11:07 - Stories behind Will’s writing

19:10 - Invariants and levels of abstraction

30:25 - Why a product manager exists

33:57 - Think, then do

36:30 - Running through the invariants and strategy doc

42:41 - Timeline

46:55 - Minimizing meetings with good writing

48:53 - Iterating vs incrementing

56:44 - Who has better and worse product management?