i'm officially mid career, but we'll hopefully talk more about career er on an kind of fallacy of retirement. So i think anyone can be a surgeon, but it's just whether it really floats your boat, cause it's certainly not an easy life style. I have a great interest in the sort of sociology of medical and surgical spaces. Why are there not more women surgeons? Or why is it that we're under represented for indigenous trainees,. things like that. And so i do research in that area as well. That's my academic output. As well as that of, as you mentioned at the start, in the surgical lead for bond university.

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