i feel like i've written a book that's worth reading, particularly given some of the historical contexts. I think people realize that this lack of confidence in ourselves is going to cause real problems and already has. Some of the devisiveness we see in society is because we don't feel like we're pulling in the same direction. To me, a debate is more like what me, you and anton have around the studio when we're talkin about sometimes quite difficult subjects. That's a debate. But if we got to appoint a society where we feel so disconnected from each other that our fellow citizens are our enemy, what we want is to destroy them. What we want