You mentioned this idea that you can solve things through casting at campaigns. Are there risks to the idea that we should have representation, for example, on boards? Is there anything risky about that in itself as a concept? I think representation doesn't mean that the majority of people from that group are doing well. And then there can be representation that's being used to obscure systems that are exploittive. It's quite interesting though, when black features that are very maligned then become the aspiration.

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