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How Do You Listen for That in Leaders?
"I now find the enneagram super helpful actually it's got all kinds of interesting pieces in it that might not be very sciency but they're very useful right um and I see new things when I look through that lens," she says. "A version is really helpful you know what pisses you off in other people what what do you feel scorn or contempt for" She adds, "Each of those things is a difficulty that probably has something to teach you"