Cathy Lewis: It took me months to work up the courage to ask this question. When people are in the minority, or they're very different from the other people around them, they don't get that same optic of positive feelings of closeness with people after they'be engaged in these things. So i can have big implications a and one of the things i tell people is that companies are like babies, and if we think about our own babies, we're really careful about who we leave our babies with. And we want to know who the person is.