Managing Agents: Human and Software Supervision

How does code, like language, shape the way we see the world? How can we rediscover enchantment in our technology?? How can we determine the half-life of knowledge as we continue to learn and discover new things?

Samuel Arbesman is a scientist in residence at Lux Capital, a fellow at Case Western School of Management, and the author of three books, The Magic of Code: How Digital Language Created and Connects Our World—and Shapes Our Future, Overcomplicated: Technology at the Limits of Comprehension, and The Half-Life of Facts: Why Everything We Know Has an Expiration Date.

Greg and Samuel discuss Samuel’s newest book, The Magic of Code, and how programming languages have evolved and continue to evolve over time. Samuel explores society’s enchantment and disenchantment with technology, the evolution of programming languages, the intersection of computer science and humanities, and the ongoing shift towards more democratized software creation. They also go over Samuel’s  earlier works, highlighting the temporary nature of facts and the continual necessity for adaptive learning in a rapidly evolving world.

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Episode Quotes:

Reenchanting technology through humanities 

03:24: I think the larger perspective of the book [The Magic of Code] is to also recognize that, in addition to this wonder and delight, also recognizing that when we think about computing competition, it doesn’t need to just be this branch of engineering or this thing of computer science. It really is this almost humanistic liberal art that, when you think about it properly, should connect to language and philosophy and biology and art and how we think and the nature of reality and all these different kinds of things. And for me, those are the windows and the lenses that allow us to actually kind of re-enchant, not even just computing, but in turn many aspects of our own lives, and hopefully can repair at least a little bit of that kind of broken relationship.

On the magic of code

06:31:  We actually have this weird information stuff that can actually work in the real world. That’s amazing. And we should pause at least and say, wow, that really is incredible.

Why democratizing software is powerful

26:56: This idea of being able to democratize software creation is incredibly powerful. And actually, in going back to the analogy with magic, I mean, yes, in many of the tales of magic, it did require a great deal of effort. You had to apprentice, or you had to, I don’t know, go to Hogwarts for seven years or whatever it is. But there also were stories of magic for everyone; there were spells that could be used by people if they, like in the Middle Ages, had lost their cattle and needed to recover it. And I think we need that same kind of thing in the software realm as well, which is, we need spells and code that can be used by everyone. And now, with this ability, it’s unbelievable to see.

Ideas are always in draft form

53:41: A professor of mine, when I was in graduate school, told me this story. This was already after I had left grad school. He was telling me this story that he was teaching some course, came in on Tuesday, and gave a lecture on some topic. Then, the next day, he read a paper that invalidated the lecture he had given the day before. So he went in on Thursday and said, “Remember what I taught you on Tuesday? It’s wrong. And if that bothers you, you need to get out of science.” And I think that kind of idea—that science, or what we know, is constantly in draft form—is a very powerful idea.

Show Links:

Recommended Resources:

• Max Weber
• Dune
• iPhone (1st generation)
• ChatGPT
• H. P. Lovecraft
• Fantasia
• Guido van Rossum
• Larry Wall
• Sapir–Whorf Hypothesis
• List of Programming Languages
• Brainfuck
• Fortran
• Perl
• Vibe Coding
• Robin Sloan
• VIC-20
• Pierre-Simon Laplace
• Vannevar Bush
• Don R. Swanson
• Luis Walter Alvarez
• Marc Benioff
• The Unaccountability Machine
• Isaac Asimov

Guest Profile:

• Arbesman.net
• Professional Profile for  LuxCapita
• LinkedIn Account
• Social Profile on X

Guest Work:

• Amazon Author Page
• The Magic of Code: How Digital Language Created and Connects Our World—and Shapes Our Future
• Overcomplicated: Technology at the Limits of Comprehension
• The Half-Life of Facts: Why Everything We Know Has an Expiration Date
• Wired Articles
• Substack - Cabinet of Wonders

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