I would say the analysis in the IPCC innately is very conservative. It won't push things as hard as it might do if you talk to the individual separately. So I think we have to choose to take the IPCC as the most optimistic interpretation. The equity part tells you if we're serious about our commitment, then the wealthy amongst us in society. That's not just the billionaires. We will have to have rapid, deep changes to how we live our lives. But we won't do it through altruistic means.

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