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Forging The Future: Ari Wallach on The Longpath Mindset, Telos & Transgenerational Empathy

The Rich Roll Podcast

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Is Ithaca Lost?

Kevin Kelly: The year 4,020 AD is closer to a protopia than the Coliseum in Roman times. He asks whether humanity has ever had an Ithaca and what it would look like. Kelly: If we want these protopias in 4,.020 AD, if not sooner, my argument is without that vision of what that looks like, they won't be possible.

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