Thoughts on Bitcoin Treasuries vs. Buying Bitcoin

"When you hold the Bitcoin yourself, you already have the control over it that you don't get with any other custodial financial instrument. And I think that people need to think about that more because you can come to Bitcoin... because... it sounds good, I'm going to invest my dollars, and I'm going to get the Bitcoin, the Bitcoin is going to become worth more than the dollars over time, that's usually what gets them in.
But I would say what makes them stay is the permissionlessness of it. Is the fact that you can have this money, and it's your money. And the bank can't decide "We're not going to bank with you anymore, you gotta go and find someone else". The exchange can't get hacked. If you want to go somewhere else in the world, it's not like they're just going to say, "Well, I'm sorry, we don't allow our money to go to that part of the world".
It's not really your money in that sense."
~ Craig Raw

What's it really like to build essential tools in Bitcoin when the world keeps changing around you? And how do you keep pushing for true self-sovereignty when everything feels so complicated?

In this chat, I'm stoked to sit down with Craig Raw, the legendary developer behind Sparrow Wallet. We get into his journey, why he built Sparrow out of pure passion, and how his own path to financial freedom led to such a powerful tool. We'll also dig into other topics like how the Patriot Act might affect Bitcoin privacy, and the technical magic of PSBTs and Miniscript.

Craig also drops some really cool insights into how Bitcoin is actually being used for everyday payments in South Africa with apps like Money Badger. Plus, we chew on the bigger ideas of personal sovereignty and why holding your own keys is more important than ever in today's wild financial climate. If you're curious about the real grit and genius behind the tools that empower us, you won't want to miss this one.

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