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Out of Creative Control: Bret Speaks with Matt Orfalea on the DarkHorse Podcast
DarkHorse Podcast
COVID Kids - What's Next?
Matt Welch: I saw one of your friends, Benjamin Boyce, same thing happened to him apparently. It's not just the stuff that you publish. He says Hamilton 68 is the one he's kind of obsessing over now because it's such a big story and he wants to do it right. "I keep cutting you off when, as you try to wrap it up, I'm sorry," said Welch. 'It does tell you something'
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