The Family Resemblance in Sleep Magic

Jay Dyer: I was really struck by the cut by a couple sequences, one where she's in a theater watching a horror film and another where she's kind of like in a dance club. The way that those sequences were shot in a very similar way to when she's undergoing the sleep experiments. Maybe the movie is kind of like winking at the fact there that when we put ourselves in this state of like watching a movie, especially frightening or disassociative movies, there's something there that is within the same family as delving deeply into sleep magic or sleep experiments,. Mm. All right. Well, Jay, thank you so much for joining us. This has been