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Can we Break Free? Bret Speaks with Michael Shellenberger

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Are We Underinvesting in Fusion?

I don't trust the nuclear industry at all, i think their designs are all flawed. I know we could do vastly better origt were the nuclear industry to be and frankly, you know, it's evolution in the market that turns an industry into a danger. And wed have to get through the failure of governments issue, which is likely to take us out in the meantime - part of why i was so enthusiastic about your campaign for governor. But none the less, i believe that what we want is an electrically powered world to the extent possible. Then we want fusion to be the plug and play solution that takes all that electric stuff and doesn't require us to do anything new with it

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