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Ep. 540 — Jon Meacham

The Axe Files with David Axelrod

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The Tension Between the Political Gradualism and the Line in the Sand That Lincoln Drew

Lincoln was fortunate in his enemies, right? One of the other things that I found so riveting for our time is what the slave owning interest did. They insisted on their own version of reality, their own set of facts. And they could not envision a world where they were being told that they were wrong. So they seceded and it's pretty clear to me that without some term Lincoln might not have had an occasion to do this. But as a practical man, he understood the South. The Southern Illinois, as you know, is well Alabama. Exactly. He understood it and he had sworn an oath to the Constitution and he imploded to his reverence for the founders earlier

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