Amitai Etzioni: I think our own people's minds is we have some experience with layer two now, right? For the last 18 months or so, I think arbitrum was the first layer to that that deployed. It's an optimistic roll up, which is different than a ZK roll up. And the big difference here is that with the lower time, you need to wait one week, two weeks or three weeks just for this challenging game to happen. In the ZKs, this can go maybe, I don't know, maybe two, five minutes or just even few seconds. So you can be very, very, very fast. The future of course

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