The idea that these people like Schneider and Martin were somehow criminal types or people who had just been sort of buffalo by Corresh I think is the most unfortunate mischaracterization. Mr. Martin was a graduate of Harvard school. He was one of our earliest African American graduates. And so, and he was quite indignant in, in your interview of him. This is just a short clip of that here. Okay. So I have a couple more clips here along these lines before we get to the action. We, you know, to wrap up about the Davidians themselves was, so this clip is Alan Stone,. He's a professor of rules of engagement. In my own psychiatry and law