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'I'm sang fom mamy perspective, i understand. But we're two cycles of that line of thinking not working out well,' he says. 'The first cycle was very contentious, and in the second cycle is it getting less contentioous.' He adds: 'It's like war tis keepin the trailer for john carter. Maybe it'll excite them again'
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